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This doesn't seem to make sense
« on: Mar 31, 2005, 03:49:36 PM »
X:1
T:Ned Puw's Farewell
M:2/4
L:1/8
K:G
G2 | d>c Bd | GG F2 | G2 d>c | BA GF/A/ |
 A>F Ad | d^c d2 | d2 c>B | AG F>F :|
M:3/4
d2 | d2 B2 d2 | c2 A2 c2 | B3 d c2 | B2 A2 G2 |
 A2 B2 c2 | B2 A2 G2 | c3 B A2 | G2 F2 d2 |
 d2 c2 B2 | B2 A2 G2 | F2 G2 z2 ||

As far as I can see, this should have the return after the G2

In the original (which was in Bb) the last bar of part A read (in transposition)

AG F>F z/ :| ??

The B part seems odd with 11 bars

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Re: This doesn't seem to make sense
« Reply #1 on: Mar 31, 2005, 04:16:13 PM »
I think it oughta look like

G2 |: d>C bD | ...  can you say "anacrucis?" I knew you could... (we miss you, Fred Rogers, and not just Pittsburghers) (too bad I don't know how to spel anacrusis)

together with fudge to land in time in the B part. The 11 bar bit seems not so odd considering the time change. I assume this is lyrical, with an afoal lot of rubato. Or so sez the Griffiths in me.

<+> I also hear a bird's-eye fermata over the last note.

<+> Trying it with a quarter rest (extra beat) in the last measure of the A part shows signs of making sense if you return the the beginning. I'm hearing a phrase end after the 2nd full measure, as well as the end of the measure with the accidental C. Is there a way to find someone who knows the tune? (Are there words to it?)
« Last Edit: Mar 31, 2005, 04:41:43 PM by beeswing »
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Re: This doesn't seem to make sense
« Reply #2 on: Mar 31, 2005, 06:33:29 PM »
Regarding the missing repeat sign after the pickup note (ana...what?), that's pretty common in folk tab.  Transcribers generally assume you'll know that you need to drop the pickup note on the repeat.  Fiddlers do it instinctively; it's not an issue unless you're using an abc-to-midi translator to listen to the file, at which point it becomes somewhat annoying!

I'd be inclined to think that extra rest at the end of the first part is a mistake, but I agree with beeswing that more information is needed!  What sort of tune is this supposed to be?  Based on the name I'm thinking air or lament (i.e., played freely instead of in strict tempo), in which case the extra beat, as well as the 11-bar second part, would make more sense to me. -Steve

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Re: This doesn't seem to make sense
« Reply #3 on: Mar 31, 2005, 08:01:09 PM »
The story is that this is the tune Ned Puw was playing when he, in a fit of bravado (drunken?), walked towards a mystical cave. He was never seen again but, his hideous wraith did try to entice others towards the cave. In the midi form it is very disjointed (as was Ned) so, there is, obviously, some degree of freedom. The tune is, apparently, 17th century but, all the versions seem to be taken from one hand written text of unknown date. But, since it is in standard notation I would assume late 18th early 19th century.
« Last Edit: Apr 01, 2005, 07:10:47 AM by swarbrules »

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Re: This doesn't seem to make sense
« Reply #4 on: Apr 01, 2005, 05:45:08 PM »
Nice story, I like tunes that have a story to them. I'll go try to play the tune.

added: Played the tune and it's a nice tune. Thanks for posting it!
« Last Edit: Apr 01, 2005, 06:03:06 PM by zaivanbuijs »

 




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