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Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
« on: Oct 19, 2004, 03:42:34 AM »
Hi Everyone,

I'm now the proud owner of an older Yamaha SV-100 electric violin.  (May the Jurgensmeyers which I sent back to Simba rot in heck.)

It didn't come with the shoulder rest which is inserted in three holes underneath.  I'd like to use a conventional shoulder rest, but the plastic "frame" slopes off so the bottom is not even.  (I'll post a photo when my brain is more than mush.)  I'm using my old battered wolfe shoulder rest, but I've heard that a Kun rest might be better.

I'm just curious what other people have done in this situation.

Cecerose  :D


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Re: Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
« Reply #1 on: Oct 19, 2004, 09:33:23 AM »
Fingers crossed that this one works out better for you. I can't remember the frame off the top of my head. Best to try a Kun first.. I personally couldn't get on with it and found it uncomfortable... but more the majority, Kun is no.1 I think...

Can't you take the instrument into a local violin shop and try fitting a Kun there?
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Re: Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
« Reply #2 on: Oct 19, 2004, 10:22:08 AM »
There is a rest that fits most violins - including the awkward ones that have no 'lip' such as a Bridge - it's the Bonmusica. It looks odd, is hand-made in Germany in small numbers and in Britain is about 32. Most people find it very comfortable.

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Re: Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
« Reply #3 on: Oct 19, 2004, 10:51:50 AM »
Ooops, sorry.... That's the one, not Kun. Bonmusica, Bridge recommend it... and I personally cannot stand it.. Found it really uncomforable, bits digging where bits shouldn't dig.. Perhaps I have odd shoulders...

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Re: Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
« Reply #4 on: Oct 19, 2004, 11:00:38 AM »
Perhaps I have odd shoulders...


Have you?  ;)

Shoulder rests are very personal things and the Bonmusica can't really be shaped for different physiques - nor can the Kun or its clones. The most customisable, imho, are the Wolf Primo and Secondo. Having said that I like the stability of the Bonmusica.

I've just been trying a new one - the Stowemaster http://www.stowemaster.co.uk/

unique design to minimise the sound deadening effect of normal ones - and very comfortable once its set up - clamps under the chinrest so ideal for every violin that there are problems attaching a normal one to.

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Re: Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
« Reply #5 on: Oct 19, 2004, 11:17:42 AM »
Sounds interesting... I'm not getting a picture on their website atm though :(
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Re: Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
« Reply #6 on: Oct 19, 2004, 11:52:30 AM »
Sounds interesting... I'm not getting a picture on their website atm though :(

Nor me. Very few people sell it (we do, as do Ayres) and there are no pictures on the web - I have hard copy which I could scan I guess.

The price is just over 70. Serious stuff.

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Re: Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
« Reply #7 on: Oct 19, 2004, 07:12:34 PM »
I have the Bonmusica on my Bridge violin and find it ok. It annoyed me for about 5 mins, then I adjusted it to fit me and was fine.

My acoustic has a Kun shoulder rest.

Just wondering if this is a similar thing to the jordan though where the shoulderrest is screwed to the body.
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Re: Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
« Reply #8 on: Oct 19, 2004, 07:17:21 PM »
I have the Bon Musica on my Bridge Instruments Aquila and since I have two I have one on the Acoustic too. After a year or more they are holding up very well (durable)  and confortable once properly adjusted like Richard said. They have a lot of flexability in the adjustments and fit instrument that don't work well with the standard shoulder rest.
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Re: Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
« Reply #9 on: Oct 19, 2004, 07:36:33 PM »
Re Stowemaster http://www.stowemaster.co.uk/

Tis a Schoolboy error that does not allow us to see the picture. For the pages writer, it would work as its on his C drive. otherwise -oh dear. 

1st Error:
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage Express 2.0">
Front page does not assign to a project folder. will allow from anywhere. makes writing web pages a pain

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Re: Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
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Re Stowemaster http://www.stowemaster.co.uk/

Tis a Schoolboy error that does not allow us to see the picture. For the pages writer, it would work as its on his C drive. otherwise -oh dear.
2nd Error:
<img src="file:///C:/My%20Documents/StoweMaster/Webpage/DSC_0020%20COPY%205.jpg" width="400" height="604">
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Worse then that it is not a web url but, a file url which won't work in a web page across the internet (on your local pc yes across the internet no)

Johnson String Instruments in the USA sell them
http://www.johnson-inst.com
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Re: Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
« Reply #11 on: Oct 19, 2004, 09:02:59 PM »
I've heard (on another forum) that the Yamaha SV series rest is  identical to a Kun 3/4 size rest, with the feet taken off.  Needless to say, the Kun is substantially cheaper than the  "official" rest sold as a replacement by Yamaha...

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Re: Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
« Reply #12 on: Oct 19, 2004, 11:41:48 PM »
Fingers crossed that this one works out better for you

Thanks!  :D

It arrived in the mail last Friday and it's a lot sturdier than the Jurg, that's for sure.  As for taking it in and trying on shoulder rests for size, this is San Diego, land of electric guitars and surfboards and not much else...  Though rumour has it there are well stocked music stores downtown.  If I were still living in San Francisco, I go to Haight Ashbury or to Duboce Park, where I bought my acoustic...

Overall, I'm pleased with the Yamaha SV, though the Jurg actually sounds better tone wise.  I'm experiementing with my bowing etc and am learning by trial and error how to coax away the harsh edges...

Yeah, I'm going to order a Kun...

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Re: Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
« Reply #13 on: Oct 19, 2004, 11:49:40 PM »
Overall, I'm pleased with the Yamaha SV, though the Jurg actually sounds better tone wise. I'm experiementing with my bowing etc and am learning by trial and error how to coax away the harsh edges...

Really, interesting never tried an SV to be honest there is a lot that can be coaxed out with careful bowing and that is something I am still working on. Try a softer start of a note and substitute legato bowing where possible.
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Re: Best Standard Shoulder Rest for a Yamaha SV-100??
« Reply #14 on: Oct 20, 2004, 04:01:27 PM »
I've heard (on another forum) that the Yamaha SV series rest is  identical to a Kun 3/4 size rest, with the feet taken off.  Needless to say, the Kun is substantially cheaper than the  "official" rest sold as a replacement by Yamaha...

Hheheheh...I saw a replacement on some website for $100 American. 

What are the standard lengths for should rests (4/4, 3/4, etc?)  I was thinking of measuring the bottom area of the violin where the rest would go and working backward from there...

 




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