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Author Topic: Boogie, on the fiddle, big and little: Try this at home.  (Read 669 times)

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Boogie, on the fiddle, big and little: Try this at home.
« on: Jun 03, 2020, 12:34:08 AM »
Ilse,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXWPaW-q_C8

Great alone, but we could do  a lot with this with just a fiddle or two.
« Last Edit: Jun 06, 2020, 12:53:47 AM by graeme »

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Re: Boogie, anyone?
« Reply #1 on: Jun 03, 2020, 09:02:27 PM »
Ilse, that's great playing on the cello! You don't hear anything like that very often.

I did kind of a similar thing on fiddle a while back, just a bit faster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD2RacCBQpo

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Re: Boogie, anyone?
« Reply #2 on: Jun 04, 2020, 01:12:16 AM »
Nice one, Jim.

Now, if the two of you met up in a quiet pub, you could put together a 20 minute set of refreshingly different fiddling on old time boogie.  And, with a bit of imaginative work, a whole world of Blues would also be available.

Just two fiddles playing contrapuntally, and a cello boogie player, and three careers could blossom.

But, well done, Jim.

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Re: Boogie, anyone?
« Reply #3 on: Jun 04, 2020, 10:00:28 AM »
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Nice one, Jim.

Now, if the two of you met up in a quiet pub, you could put together a 20 minute set of refreshingly different fiddling on old time boogie.  And, with a bit of imaginative work, a whole world of Blues would also be available.

Just two fiddles playing contrapuntally, and a cello boogie player, and three careers could blossom.

But, well done, Jim.

Thanks, Graeme.

I'm trying to get the feel of the typical boogie piano left hand riff, eg DD - F#F# - GG - G#A , and incorporate melody into that.

Mr Jim

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Re: Boogie, anyone?
« Reply #4 on: Jun 05, 2020, 01:17:58 AM »
Of course you are, and it works a treat.

Now, boogie is more often played in flat keys ... except by guitarists, of course.

Oh, and would you mind doing a really detailed breakdown of your stuff -- really detailed -- for our colleagues.  (Silly me, I know, but in my experience, people are genuinely hopeless at analyzing playing, and I am sure lots of folk would like to have a go.  But they need a leg up, especially once you get the blues boogie happening in flat keys -- forget those guitar players, I say.)

Perhaps you could start a new thread, and present boogie 101, then boogie blues in the wild.  If you have time, and the inclination, of course.  A tutorial on boogie fiddle.

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Re: Boogie, anyone?
« Reply #5 on: Jun 05, 2020, 09:22:23 AM »
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Perhaps you could start a new thread, and present boogie 101, then boogie blues in the wild.  If you have time, and the inclination, of course.  A tutorial on boogie fiddle.

Hi Graeme or, perhaps just use this thread, as it only has a few posts on it - maybe you could just change the thread title?

So, where from here? Boogie on fiddle, based on piano boogie ...

I think I'll link to an existing past video of mine, which explains a little on capturing both the left and right hand actions of a pianist.

Sure, a tinkler has 10 usable fingers, is by nature polyphonic and percussive, whereas a scraper has only 4 usable fingers, and is normally only monophonic, and anything but percussive. Well, there are ways round this.

Have a look at this little video, which hopefully will explain the above a little better.

***EDIT : Better quality video now available : ***

https://youtu.be/FtrqYV5xeVQ

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Re: Boogie, on the fiddle, big and little: Try this at home.
« Reply #6 on: Jun 06, 2020, 12:59:56 AM »
Thar you go, Jim.  Thank you. 

Now, all fiddlers of the world, take twenty minutes a day to start your boogie adventure.

Part 2, Jum?

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Re: Boogie, on the fiddle, big and little: Try this at home.
« Reply #7 on: Jun 06, 2020, 10:33:08 AM »
I've updated the video now - I found the original, which is better quality.

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Now, all fiddlers of the world, take twenty minutes a day to start your boogie adventure.

Graeme - this might be a good time to see if anyone is actually interested in this stuff. Obviously I am, but is anyone else?  ;D

In any case, I need to put a bit more explanation in text.

Jim

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Re: Boogie, on the fiddle, big and little: Try this at home.
« Reply #8 on: Jun 08, 2020, 01:43:38 AM »
Hand up, everyone who wants to boogie with Jim.

Make it clear that you want to do a little teamwork on spreading this fiddle groove.

Please?

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Re: Boogie, on the fiddle, big and little: Try this at home.
« Reply #9 on: Jun 09, 2020, 04:55:47 PM »
OK, I'd like to have a go! Have been copying Jim on the video with limited success. Every time that Jim misses out part of the LH riff (as he says) and plays some sort of fill, I can imagine the riff continuing behind the fill. Which is great: an illusion of two hands! But when I try and do the same, it sounds like someone sandwiching a few frantic notes between repetitions of a riff. Sort of more like one hand clapping but without any mystic overtones  :-( Probably I need to get more confident in the rhythm. And maybe I also need to relax more, leave a bit of space... I'll keep trying.

Thanks for this, anyway!

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Re: Boogie, on the fiddle, big and little: Try this at home.
« Reply #10 on: Jun 09, 2020, 07:51:17 PM »
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OK, I'd like to have a go! Have been copying Jim on the video with limited success. Every time that Jim misses out part of the LH riff (as he says) and plays some sort of fill, I can imagine the riff continuing behind the fill. Which is great: an illusion of two hands! But when I try and do the same, it sounds like someone sandwiching a few frantic notes between repetitions of a riff. Sort of more like one hand clapping but without any mystic overtones  :-( Probably I need to get more confident in the rhythm. And maybe I also need to relax more, leave a bit of space... I'll keep trying.

Thanks for this, anyway!

Hi Dave!

I think it might be an idea for me to simplify the repeating riff, say just (on the two middle open strings) DA-DA DB-DB  DA-DA DB-DB  DA-DA DB-DB etc, then there will be less to worry about.

I'll try to do a short video tomorrow.

Jim

 




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