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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #25 on: Oct 27, 2016, 02:27:48 AM »
Nick: do you have noticeably less discomfort when playing the 1930's fiddle? When you get the strings lowered on the old one, hopefully over time, you'll have less pinky pain.
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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #26 on: Oct 27, 2016, 02:08:21 PM »
Well, the pain is mainly in first and second fingers and intermittant, so it's hard to say whether it's linked or not . I had a lot more problem with it when I was practicing mainly on the old one compared to when I was practicing mainly on the young one.

But I can play fast string crossing-ey things on the young one that I can't on the old one. The sensation under the fingers if I move from the young to the old one is like walking on a trampoline between two wires.
I do adapt to it but I thought it was time to bite the bullet and get it sorted.  It's miles off "standard" setting.

The luthier had a look at it yesterday and has agreed that removing and re-setting the neck was the best solution, although he did say it was pretty major surgery on an old fiddle. Said he wasn't sure why the neck had been set so low in the first place and warned he might "discover something funny about the end block" once he opened it up.

He's also going to shorten  the tail gut slightly. I think it is one of those times you just have to put your trust in someone to know what they are doing!
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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #27 on: Nov 09, 2016, 04:38:30 PM »
The neck was taken off on Monday ... still no news   :-\   :'(
It's like waiting for your other to come out from the anaesthetic.

On the plus side I've been given a nice strad copy by tyhe luthier  to look after while my old lady's being operated on, with instructions to  give it a good thrashing!  This one http://www.malcolm-williamson.co.uk/Violins
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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #28 on: Nov 09, 2016, 08:06:27 PM »
oooooh - lovely! How does she sound?
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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #29 on: Nov 09, 2016, 10:33:07 PM »
That's a very pretty fiddle.

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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #30 on: Nov 09, 2016, 11:03:08 PM »
It's a very nice cabinet.  Wait, he builds fiddles, too?   :o

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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #31 on: Nov 13, 2016, 10:42:12 AM »
oooooh - lovely! How does she sound?
Pretty good.  Really easy instrument to play, which just reminds me how bad the neck alignment has been on mine for the last 12 years. Lots of volume & projection in a big room. For me the overall tone is less pleasant than my old fiddle but better (especially in a large hall) than my German 1930's one (the one in my avatar). It has for me a slight "honkiness" around B / C on the A string but is sweet on all the others. Having demonstrated that to him, the maker agrees and says he is going to take it in and do some experiments and adjustmenst to try to resolve it.

I saw my old fiddle in the workshop on Friday, with it's newly re-aligned neck , a new Baggs bridge fitted along with a new Wittner tailpiece, for a quick test run before the electrics are all wired up and the carpenter jack refitted, plus a little TLC to the "bald spots" in it's varnich.  First impressions good , the old tone seems to be still there but more responsive and easier to play.....I'm really excited and can't wait to get it back to play properly next week :)     I will post "before and after" pics!
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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #32 on: Nov 13, 2016, 06:07:58 PM »
Nick, my old Czech fiddle has/had a honky B and C also.  But that disappeared after a couple months playing it.  I'm not sure if regular playing calmed it down, or if I simply learned to deal with it.  It was newly restored when I got it - adjustment to string tension might have been a factor as well.  I haven't been playing much for a few months now, and I still cannot get it to reproduce those honks.  Maybe the Dominant strings on it at the time were a factor?  I also installed a Wittner Ultra at the same time, but I highly doubt that would have such a large impact.

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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #33 on: Nov 13, 2016, 06:54:47 PM »
B, C, and even C# on the A string seem to be 'hot spots' on many fiddles.I know I've had a few like that. I would either ged rid of them somehow, or get rid of the fiddle.

Nick: so with the neck adjustment, will the bridge height be about the same...but the strings will be closer to the finger board? 
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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #34 on: Nov 14, 2016, 09:53:46 AM »
That's it, blues.  New bridge,  slightly higher, new tailpiece slightly higher (and integral adjusters replacing bolt on ironmongery),  neck re-angled so fingerboard is (quite a lot!) nearer to strings at bridge end.
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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #35 on: Nov 15, 2016, 02:39:06 PM »
Here are some views before and after . The "before" pics were by daylight and the "after" by artificial light , but you'll get the gist
« Last Edit: Nov 15, 2016, 07:19:47 PM by Nick2 »
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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #36 on: Nov 15, 2016, 02:40:49 PM »
ah, only 1 file attached to that post
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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #37 on: Nov 15, 2016, 07:21:49 PM »
and a "before" pic to compare . I still haven't worked out how to attach more than 1 pic to a post, sorry!
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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #38 on: Nov 25, 2016, 01:41:35 PM »
And, by the way , I am now 100% satisfied  with my newly set up fiddle!   The fingering is so much lighter and easier and the volume and projection have increased as well. I can make as much noise in a large hall on one string as I did before on two.  The luthier's done a really nice job and as well as doing the neck and tail he's glued up some loose areas on the side and replaned the finger board.

Sounds really nice in both small and large rooms. Much more sensitive to the bow but still has that smooth ramp-up on getting moving, less fatiguing to play and even looks a little better after a gentle clean up. Totally happy bunny now!
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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #39 on: Nov 26, 2016, 11:56:47 AM »
whoa, I nearly missed this. just noticed it at the bottom of the page.

first off, I'm really glad it worked out. Sounds like a vast improvement.

but I must say....I wonder how you even played it, seeing that before picture....Yikes!

I will be expecting you to play twice as well as when your strings were twice as high.  :D

enjoy your new old fiddle.
« Last Edit: Nov 26, 2016, 10:53:43 PM by bluesviolin »
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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #40 on: Mar 24, 2020, 06:33:36 PM »
In have more than I know what to do with.
Main ones are a 1980's  Barcus Berry back when they were using Hofner fiddles as the mule for their systems. Plays excellently electrically. 
My main acoustic is a Chinese fiddle I bought at the workshop in China 7 years ago.  Its perfect for acoustic jams and some live performances. Deep lows, and sweet high end.  Could use a nut reshaping for my taste, but I am so used to it now it doesn't really bother me. I also have an old 1873 Tyrolean fiddle with a nice inlay on the back, named Hans. Hans needs to be played, a lot, before he starts to really sound good, and I don;t get a chance to play him much these days.  Good, not great tone when he's in shape.

But I used to hit antique auctions years ago, and picked up a lot of fiddles for peanuts, most needed the usual strings, bridge, tailpiece etc, and I have a few of those still. None really stand out and I either sell them or donate to our H.S. orchestra.  A few odd ball electrics,  one is a kit fiddle with a horse head scroll, sounds like shite but is cool to look at. The other is a weird one, made from PVC pipe and wood, looks like a Klingon battle cruiser with strings, it has a Barcus pickup but its really heavy and not great plugged in.

So yeah, I am happy with my main instruments.

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Re: are you completely satisfied with your fiddle(s)....or not?
« Reply #41 on: Apr 06, 2020, 02:17:38 AM »
Midway thru my search i realized it ain't the fiddle. So why did i keep searching? The hunt for LOUD. Not only have i found it acoustically, but i have an L.R. Baggs bridge in case i tangle with some Strat or Telecaster.

Bow too. I really like this bow. So easy to play, it's crazy.

 




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