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degreasing bow and strings
« on: Jan 09, 2015, 03:37:11 PM »
What's the best way to degrease your bow and strings?

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Re: degreasing bow and strings
« Reply #1 on: Jan 09, 2015, 03:47:25 PM »
Wash the bow hair with shampoo. It is hair, after all.

First: Place a wide rubber band over the mortise hole and the hair at the tip of the bow to keep it from falling out.

Next, loosen the nut completely and take it out, pull the frog downwards gently, and it should come loose from the bow.

Wash gently with shampoo, pat dry with a towel, and reassemble. Then start rosining the strings all over again.

Strings? Rub a wine cork over the strings. (It's easier if you remove it from the wine bottle, much harder if you drink the entire bottle right before attempting this.) Ghastly sound, but it does the trick. Have an old gym sock underneath to catch the rosin and keep it off the fiddle.


Though, truth be known, I don't know why you'd want to wash the hair unless something spilled on it: I re-hair my bows about once a year, so they don't really get that caked with rosin.

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Re: degreasing bow and strings
« Reply #2 on: Jan 09, 2015, 03:50:35 PM »
I don't have a wine cork unfortunately haha is there anything else I could use?

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Re: degreasing bow and strings
« Reply #3 on: Jan 09, 2015, 05:09:31 PM »
The feet cut from panty hose work as well. I use both.

But you're on your own  if you're going to ask as to how to get those!

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Re: degreasing bow and strings
« Reply #4 on: Jan 09, 2015, 05:32:36 PM »
I use a microfiber cloth on my strings.

For rosin buildup I actually scrape the string with my thumbnail, being careful to keep the cloth between my thumbnail and the string. This can make a horrible sound, so I usually mute the string with my other hand.

For the rest of the string length, I just run the cloth over, under, and around the strings to clean them. But they don't get that dirty that I have to do this very often.

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Re: degreasing bow and strings
« Reply #5 on: Jan 09, 2015, 10:56:23 PM »
I use Pirastro string cleaner.  Very fast at cleaning & drying and ...quiet  ;D



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Re: degreasing bow and strings
« Reply #6 on: Jan 10, 2015, 12:01:44 AM »
I'm just curious - how did you manage to get grease on your bow hair in the first place?  ???  :)

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Re: degreasing bow and strings
« Reply #7 on: Jan 10, 2015, 05:23:08 AM »

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Re: degreasing bow and strings
« Reply #8 on: Jan 10, 2015, 02:43:27 PM »
I was always told by my teacher to clean strings with a clioth dipped in eau de cologne, but have used aftershave, perfume, even double strength vodka on one occasion. Anything with strong alcohol does the job on strings and fingerboard,  but be really careful not to let alcohol get anywhere on the varnished bits of the fiddle as it'll strip the varnish as well.  Most types of alcohol work but vary in their pong! And if you're using something drinkable avoid stuff that is sweet as you'll get sugar on your strings.
The cork method works too, but if using a bottle cork cut it first as the outer surface may be coated with stuff to used lubricate during bottle corking.
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Re: degreasing bow and strings
« Reply #9 on: Jan 11, 2015, 01:34:47 AM »
Personally, I've never found it necessary to do more than wipe the strings with a dry cotton cloth before placing it in the case.  I do this each time I put the violin in the case, so there is no buildup.  In the area where the bow touches, I lightly brush away the rosin with the cloth - I don't squeak the strings.
For the hair. . . if you're careful not to touch it, it will stay fairly clean for quite a long time.  By the time it gets dirty just from what's in the air, it's probably best to get a rehair anyway.  But, if needed, a simple wiping of the hair with a cloth soaked in denatured alcohol (from the hardware store) will do wonders.  The hair should then be "Primed" with crushed rosin, and then rosined with your regular rosin before playing.
Note: Avoid getting alcohol (or alcohol-based string cleaners) on the varnish, as varnish is alcohol-soluble.  

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Re: degreasing bow and strings
« Reply #10 on: Jun 23, 2015, 09:57:11 PM »
I have always found that bows do get greasy, and dirty, on the bit near the frog where you hold them. It is something you notice even on a teacher's bow. I have never actually dared to wash the bowhair in soapy water, though that was recommended when I was a schoolgirl - knowing me, I wouldn't be able to get it to slot back again or something. I might try wiping the area carefully with a tissue & a little liquid soap... 

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Re: degreasing bow and strings
« Reply #11 on: Jun 23, 2015, 10:43:02 PM »
I would recommend that you only use alcohol on the hair to clean off any excess rosin or oil buildup on the hair.  Be very careful not to get any alcohol on the stick, and try not to get much alcohol near the tip, or near the frog, but you can get close enough to wipe any dirt or oils near the frog that accrue.  
As for the stick, Goo-Gone works very well on any wood finish to clean off rosin, off the instrument as well.  I would not use soap, or Goo-gone or soapy water on your hair. (not saying Joe is wrong above, I'm sure it works well for him just simply saying I would not use it.  Then again I re-hair bows using a dry method and most people use water during the re-hair process as well)  Water tends to stretch the hair out quite a bit, and the hair will either stay stretched or shrink up quite a bit depending on the hair.  I have worked on bows for 10+ years and have never tried soap and water simply because I know denatured alcohol will clean it very well and it evaporates much faster than water so there is less of a chance of stretching or changing the hair much.  Horsehair isn't made to last forever though, and by the time you get to this point, it's usually time for a re-hair.  
As for your strings, rosin will cake up no matter what strings you have.  I recommend keeping a small piece of steel wool in your case for the strings.  The videos above posted by mswlogo are good tutorials for cleaning though and basically what all the professionals do.  

Justin McElravy -Luthier/Bow Specialist
Peter Zaret & Sons Violins

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Re: degreasing bow and strings
« Reply #12 on: Jun 24, 2015, 04:18:41 PM »
Thanks Justin. I've never seen Goo-gone before... will have a look out
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