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Offline harryt8

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Band in a Box
« on: Jan 01, 2015, 09:03:47 AM »
Anyone on the Forum use Band in a Box/Real Tracks for their home practice?
I'm trying to create a list of commonly used Styles for such things as Rags and Polkas.
Band in a Box software seems to be a little light on Irish/Scottish back up (ie guitar/accordian/flute etc).
Any users with any experience to pass on?
Thanks.

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Re: Band in a Box
« Reply #1 on: Nov 21, 2015, 01:53:31 PM »
I've used Band in a Box for trying to work out a solo lick.  Since most of my practice for fiddle breaks is done without the band, I was able to set up the key / chord pattern, then run through a bunch of ideas until something 'stuck'. 
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Re: Band in a Box
« Reply #2 on: Nov 22, 2015, 04:24:29 AM »
I had band-in-a box on my old computer which no longer works. I think I've still got the discs around somewhere, but I wouldn't know how to load/program them. When I bought them I paid the sales guy extra to put 'em in my computer.

I went thru most of the tracks and wrote down the ones I liked. But as memory serves there wasn't much for Scottish/Irish back up. In fact nothing that I can remember off hand. I thought it was an excellent program though. The better one is with computers, the better use for it, but I'm not too good at it.

I found this track called Sinatra style Swing (32 measures) the pre-set solo was with Vibes. I thought it sounded tres cool, so I learned it. The Vibe solo transitioned to violin very nicely. Lots of nice jazz licks throughout.
I realize this doesn't help you for what you're looking for. Maybe there is another route you could go for the back up you want. More suggestions may follow.

PS @ fiddledeedee: Hi !  long time...... sounds like you're still gigging regularly. I listened to a couple of your posts with the band you were in a few years ago, sounded pretty durn good. You must be burning up the fingerboard by now, eh?
« Last Edit: Nov 22, 2015, 04:47:12 AM by bluesviolin »
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Re: Band in a Box
« Reply #3 on: Nov 22, 2015, 02:55:36 PM »
Lol! Thanks. I am still ripping up the strings! Most of my fun gigging is with a country band in the Chattanooga TN area.  I got invited to join them 2 years ago and realize how lucky I am to get the invitation.  They are a terrific group of musicians who make every effort to have a quality show.  I can't say every group I've played with has had the same mind set (it seems like one or two of the members were in a past band cuz they liked music, or were friends of someone else).
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Re: Band in a Box
« Reply #4 on: Dec 24, 2015, 03:19:25 AM »
 :o :o

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Re: Band in a Box
« Reply #5 on: Dec 24, 2015, 04:02:55 AM »
well this is a first. I've never seen 2 smileys as a first first post.
Welcome to the forum from Calgary Alberta.
What are you doubly shocked about?
I'll see your 2  :o :o and raise you one  ???
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Re: Band in a Box
« Reply #6 on: Jan 11, 2016, 01:46:58 PM »
Hi there!

Just a short answer. Some time ago I used also the Band In A Box, its a nice software, but the way it sounds is horrible. It is just a midi machine! It has nothing to do with a music. Now I am using a loop pedal with the octave pedal and create my own backing tracks. It is similar to what Christian Howes does. So u  basically practice on your groove-timing, comping, chord tones practicing, creating your own bass lines and you can also improve your intonation, Just when setting a short loop. How more perfect can it get?

Think about it!

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Re: Band in a Box
« Reply #7 on: Jan 11, 2016, 03:17:06 PM »
It is just a midi machine! It has nothing to do with a music.


I think this is comment is way out in left field. What do you mean "It has nothing to do with a music?" MIDI (which is capitalized, BTW) has everything to do with music: it permits recording, control changes, program changes, layering, splitting, syncing, and hundreds of other items.

I would really like you to explain how MIDI "has nothing to do with a music."

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Re: Band in a Box
« Reply #8 on: Jan 12, 2016, 02:20:48 AM »
I hafta chirp in with Joe on this. I used to have Band-in-a- box, wish I still did. It could do some incredible stuff. I liked how it would give you example solos with the notes appearing as it played thru. and you could ask it for different solos for how many measures you wanted. I thought it sounded great thru decent speakers.

Admittedly, Looping works for a 'one groove' performance, but it's still only one groove, no matter how many layers you put on it. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, I like to groove along with modes with relatively simple chord changes. but I don't see how you could Loop the jazz chord changes thru a 32 measure piece.... and with a full band behind you?
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 12, 2016, 04:26:42 PM »
Hi Guys, of course, You are right. All this is also a part of a music. My Idea is, that making a music is like telling a story with all the feelings and good and bad things you can incorporate in a solo or a tune. Its more the feeling thing, not only the scales and chord tones and...You know, to make a good speech in a public, it is not enough to pick up the right words. You have also create the right feeling, tension. And  band in a box cant create all this things.

Why not create a full play along with a loop pedal. Grab a lead sheet, metronome and thenwalk all over it and record it. Add some 3rds and 7ths and there You have a backing track:)

Have fun, bye!

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Re: Band in a Box
« Reply #10 on: Jan 12, 2016, 07:16:41 PM »
No, it's still a loop. That's all.

Suppose I tell you to play the Bach Suite No.2 in Bm (Banderie). How you going to do that with a looper? How does a looper add dynamics? Rubato? Diminuendo?

If you go to the recordings section of this forum, you will see a bunch of recordings by me. I record everything to a MIDI file, then I apply instruments to it during mixdown. Listen to Beethoven's Pathetique Sonata- tell me if you hear any feeling in it...

That's a MIDI file.

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Re: Band in a Box
« Reply #11 on: Jan 20, 2016, 09:33:48 PM »
Hi, yes, u are right, I made a mistake when writting MIDI.

And You are right, if You want to play pieces like Badinerie, its more suitable to use a software. Well the best is to find a piano player...
But still, I find practising with loop station  very practical, challenging yourself at multiple things at the same time.

Have fun!

 




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