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Collar bone rest?
« on: Sep 20, 2012, 05:28:56 AM »
Years ago, Menuhin, who did not use a shoulder rest, came up with a great idea. A shoulder rest that was really a collarbone rest, a rather smaller rest which spread the weight over the collarbone and front of the breast, not the shoulder area. This was a particularly good idea for folks who didn't like the regular shoulder rest, but found it hard to hold the violin on the collarbone alone.

It was marketed for a while, but it didn't catch on (not sure why). I have seen a few modern versions of this, but they are not quite the same. I could make one (and am experimenting with that now), but is anyone aware of something like this available now?  Thanks!

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Re: Collar bone rest?
« Reply #1 on: Sep 20, 2012, 08:00:43 AM »
I do not understand how this rest differs from the majority of shoulder rests on the market.

You can adjust most of them?

Maybe a picture or drawing would be informative.
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Re: Collar bone rest?
« Reply #2 on: Sep 20, 2012, 09:10:04 AM »
Attached is a pic of one that's similar, but the original was closer to the violin's back edge with the curve of the pad reversed. A normal shoulder rest sits across from the front of the shoulder to the front of the chest, while this one sits mainly on the collar bone.

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Re: Collar bone rest?
« Reply #3 on: Nov 05, 2012, 08:12:45 PM »
Would be interesting to try something like this.

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Re: Collar bone rest?
« Reply #4 on: Nov 05, 2012, 10:13:18 PM »
Well, the one above is still being sold, but as I said, it has a reversed curve, and is not a true duplicate of the Menuhin. He designed the curve on his pad so the pad itself would rest directly on the collarbone, rather then the bottom edge of the instrument, and not on the shoulder, and also lay much closer to the plate then standard ones do (it's like playing without a rest but it won't slip). I have not actually examined the one above, but I'm guessing the pad could be reversed.
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Re: Collar bone rest?
« Reply #5 on: Nov 05, 2012, 10:18:11 PM »
Hummm...double post. Sorry!
« Last Edit: Nov 05, 2012, 11:37:19 PM by polkat »

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Re: Collar bone rest?
« Reply #6 on: Dec 31, 2013, 03:57:37 PM »
I'd be interested in one of these. My collarbone is bruised from holding my violin, I'm not sure if I am holding it incorrectly with my chin or not but it's painful to play / hold so I guess I must be.

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Re: Collar bone rest?
« Reply #7 on: Dec 31, 2013, 04:38:27 PM »
You can get something which looks like that fairly easily, at least in Europe. Did you say that you had already seen them?

They are sold on Amazon.co.uk (although not Amazon.com) as the Valentino Shoulder rest. There is an electronics shop near where I live which sells odd musical things, and they have them as well!

Apologies if you already saw them - wasn't sure.

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Re: Collar bone rest?
« Reply #8 on: Dec 31, 2013, 04:53:03 PM »
Pics of the rest here:

http://imgur.com/Zlksd1T

and here:

http://imgur.com/QPIUxoJ

(Couldn't get the pics to appear...)

Due to rookie impatience, I actually have two. I'm happy to mail one to someone if it looks useful - it's a little bit too small for me, and they don't stack up, it turns out.

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Re: Collar bone rest?
« Reply #9 on: Jul 14, 2015, 07:39:20 PM »
I too would have collar bone trouble - but I wear a very thick cotton scarf that pads and protects the collar bone. In fact, I have a whole fleet of these scarves in different colours - it's been an absorbing hobby, tracking them down in charity shops. As a female, I also have the advantage of wearing beads that sit just above the collar bone, which holds the weight of the violin well away from me. I suppose hippy males could also indulge in this,  :D
The shoulder rest does sound interesting, though. 

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Re: Collar bone rest?
« Reply #10 on: Oct 02, 2019, 03:21:49 PM »
For those still interested,

I tried the collarbone rest from Kreddle, or so-called Kreddle Cushion.
I'm an early backer at kickstarter.

...

I really don't like it. Sorry Kreddle.

However, I am convinced it depends on your body shape.
AFAIC, i just can't  hold my violin with it. Even making an extra effort with my shoulder,  the main supporting point  was my right hand.

A big  positive point, though, is that it just never falls down (contrary to the standard side fixations from KUN, Wolf,etc...)

 




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