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Bow sliding
« on: Mar 11, 2010, 10:01:45 AM »
Recently, my bow has been sliding all over my strings and is hard to control. Even when I rosin the bow it still does it. I've been playing for a year and a half and although my technique isn't perfect, it's not bad enough for the bow to be doing that as much as it does.

Does anyone know why and what I can do about it?

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Re: Bow sliding
« Reply #1 on: Mar 11, 2010, 01:00:05 PM »
I've been playing for a year and a half and although my technique isn't perfect, it's not bad enough for the bow to be doing that as much as it does.

Question, was your bow sliding at all before? If not, think about what you are doing differently. Sometimes we make changes in our playing without even realizing it.

If your bow has always been sliding and you are using the rosin correctly, it is a technique problem. A bit more info would help since there are many right hand  issues that could be involved.   

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Re: Bow sliding
« Reply #2 on: Mar 11, 2010, 01:28:51 PM »
Question, was your bow sliding at all before? If not, think about what you are doing differently. Sometimes we make changes in our playing without even realizing it.

If your bow has always been sliding and you are using the rosin correctly, it is a technique problem. A bit more info would help since there are many right hand  issues that could be involved.   

Thanks for your reply.

The bow hasn't always been sliding - it wasn't prefect but it seems to slide so much now and rosin isn't helping. Could it be the bow needs a re hair?

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Re: Bow sliding
« Reply #3 on: Mar 11, 2010, 02:11:03 PM »
Possibly. Any chance that your shoulder is moving back and forth causing the slide?

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Re: Bow sliding
« Reply #4 on: Mar 11, 2010, 02:30:02 PM »
Can you stand by a mirror while you play?  You might be able to figure it out.  Better yet, video yourself; then you can take a more objective view.

Try long slow bows.  Really long, really slow.  Relax the right arm from the shoulder.  Keep elbow lower than the wrist, and let the weight of your hand and bow keep the bow on the strings.  Don't push.  Pull for both up and down bow.  If that sounds odd, think of leading with the front edge of the hand for the up bow and the back edge of the hand for the down bow.

Long, slow bows.

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Re: Bow sliding
« Reply #5 on: Mar 11, 2010, 02:37:31 PM »
Can you stand by a mirror while you play?  You might be able to figure it out.  Better yet, video yourself; then you can take a more objective view.

Try long slow bows.  Really long, really slow.  Relax the right arm from the shoulder.  Keep elbow lower than the wrist, and let the weight of your hand and bow keep the bow on the strings.  Don't push.  Pull for both up and down bow.  If that sounds odd, think of leading with the front edge of the hand for the up bow and the back edge of the hand for the down bow.

Long, slow bows.

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Re: Bow sliding
« Reply #6 on: Mar 11, 2010, 03:13:04 PM »
Long slow bows is a  very good suggestion.  So is using a mirror. 

If your bow is square to the strings, and has enough rosin on it to make a sound, it won't slide by itself. The only way it will slide is if you don't have it square to the strings, or if you are putting sideways pressure on it.

Both those exercises help with that.

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Re: Bow sliding
« Reply #7 on: Mar 18, 2010, 12:10:21 PM »
Beware, too much rosin can make the bow slide as well as not enough, so don't over do it. Also cheap bows (particularly some of the ones that come with beginner fiddle outfits) are really bad at tracking straight.

But technique should be the first thing to check.

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Re: Bow sliding
« Reply #8 on: Mar 18, 2010, 01:04:03 PM »
I've had a very few people with this problem ask for help where the bow wasn't well balanced.  They'd gotten more relaxed and gradually the bow started fighting them.  Cheap clunky sticks.  Might think about that.  Usually it isn't the equipment, but sometimes it is. 

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Re: Bow sliding
« Reply #9 on: Mar 18, 2010, 02:36:24 PM »
Interesting that the bow has just started with this problem.  After starting up again after 4 years off I do find that I have some bow sliding, however, originally the bow sliding got better with each bow upgrade I made.

In my case I am not relaxed and the fiddle/bow seems hard to play.  It is no doubt my technique now...chuck

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Re: Bow sliding
« Reply #10 on: Mar 31, 2010, 01:22:46 AM »
"Don't push.  Pull for both up and down bow.  If that sounds odd, think of leading with the front edge of the hand for the up bow and the back edge of the hand for the down bow."


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Re: Bow sliding
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2010, 12:14:57 AM »
I had this happen to me once in the beginning after doing some pizzicato exercices beacause i was plucking the part of the string where you bow( between fingerboard and bridge), that you're not supposed to touch w/ your fingers. The oils in your skin get onto the strings and prevent the rosin from sticking. Since it was time to change my strings anyway i went ahead and put a new set on and the problem went away.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2010, 05:57:04 PM by sirena »

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Re: Bow sliding
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2010, 02:41:34 PM »
A few of the kids around here sometimes let their scrolls droop. Telling them to straighten up and play right doesn't seem to help much, my wife finds, but pointing out how easy that makes it for the bow to drift out over the fingerboard gives them a reason to keep the fiddle up where she likes to see it. Probably low on the list of likely reasons for a sliding bow, but something to think about...
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