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Offline xania

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What does your rosin look like.....
« on: Feb 07, 2004, 10:22:11 AM »
I always seem to wear two grooves into it, making a 'cross".

What does yours end up looking like (prior to it shattering, of course!).

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #1 on: Feb 07, 2004, 01:07:46 PM »
always 2 grooves

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #2 on: Feb 07, 2004, 02:17:01 PM »
matt finish flat on top.  I'm careful about this.

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #3 on: Feb 07, 2004, 03:45:34 PM »
Not perfectly smooth but no grooves. I make sure to turn it often. (My first rosin was in a small cork tray so I didn't have a choice.)

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #4 on: Feb 07, 2004, 08:58:39 PM »
Xan:

Do you feel that your Pirastro rosin tends to shatter more than other brands?
Mine seems to shatter more than the Glaesel I have.

Liz

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #5 on: Feb 07, 2004, 09:20:42 PM »
Always flat on top.  My orchestra teacher taught us to keep turning the cake to avoid putting grooves in it. If I remember correctly, he felt the rosin went on more evenly if the surface was flat (plus the cake lasted longer, but in my experience I always end up dropping the rosin and breaking it before I get anywhere near using it up!)

By the way, how do you guys put your rosin on, by rubbing the cake along the hair, or by drawing the bow across the rosin?  I was taught the latter.-Steve

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #6 on: Feb 07, 2004, 09:43:27 PM »
Drawing the bow across the rosin.

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #7 on: Feb 07, 2004, 10:45:16 PM »
Item one. Flat top because I keep turning it.

Item two. Drawing bow across the rosin but slowly, a 3 to 4 count for each draw.

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #8 on: Feb 08, 2004, 04:18:36 AM »
Xan:

Do you feel that your Pirastro rosin tends to shatter more than other brands?
Mine seems to shatter more than the Glaesel I have.

Liz


Yes, I think you may be right. I seem to have lost a small chunk of it already!!

It seems to be a harder, more brittle rosin than I've used before, but I'm starting to like it. I have to rub the rosin block on the bow to get any rosin on, though. No swiping the bow across the rosin with this stuff-it just does nothing.

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #9 on: Feb 08, 2004, 05:02:53 AM »
Always flat on top.  My orchestra teacher taught us to keep turning the cake to avoid putting grooves in it.

Yup, me too. I keep turning it. No grooves.

By the way, how do you guys put your rosin on, by rubbing the cake along the hair, or by drawing the bow across the rosin?  I was taught the latter.

I do it the latter way, too. And slowly and evenly. By the way, I love the "natural" rosin from Millant-Deroux (as I think they call it on their website). Red top, but not the "Cat Brand" stuff. Great rosin, at least for me. Sort of a cross between the newer Colophane 2000 and the older familiar "Cat Brand." Sort of a "half-dark" rosin that's midway between the ultra-smooth and "more grabby" formulations. Gosh, so little dust you have to be careful not to over-rosin ("Sounds good, but shouldn't there be more dust on this fiddle?!"). Very smooth tone, though.

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #10 on: Feb 08, 2004, 04:57:31 PM »
One groove, but after reading this thread, I think I will start a cross-hatch one!! When I played violin as a child, we only had the rosin mounted in wood that had one way to put it on, in the middle. Now with all the circular shapes, you have to pick making a groove or turning it all the time!

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #11 on: Feb 09, 2004, 05:23:55 PM »
I try to keep the top flat, It aids in prolonging the life of the rosin. I also make sure to put it away every day wrapped in the cloth an placed in plastic container with the lid on.  
When I spend 10 bucks on a good rosin, I try to get the most out of it, and the shelf life will be longer if its taken care of.
Just because the rosin still works doesn't mean it's still doing the same job it did the day you bought it, so I try to keep it in,  like new condition.

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #12 on: Feb 09, 2004, 05:49:02 PM »
Item one. Flat top because I keep turning it.

Item two. Drawing bow across the rosin but slowly, a 3 to 4 count for each draw.

Same for me on both questions. I never understood why people got grooves in their rosin. Seems like you will get more out of the rosin if you keep the top flat...

I have 4 cakes around at the moment, 2 dark and 2 light, all Hidersine. Would love to experiment but I seem to accumulate these - whenever I buy a bow, or violin, or something, they throw in a cake of Hidersine. Just what I need. Now why do none of mine ever shatter? >:( I would love an excuse to actually buy a cake of rosin, and treat myself to some nice stuff... ::)

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #13 on: Feb 09, 2004, 05:56:29 PM »
^^ You don't need any excuse, just do it.... ;D

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #14 on: Feb 09, 2004, 06:45:45 PM »
I use Tartini - basically a round cake glued to a raised dais.  I move the bow around a lot so I don't get a groove.  So it's basically flat on the surface.  It does get "groovey" ;), but I usually wear down the bumps over time.

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #15 on: Feb 09, 2004, 10:19:34 PM »
How could a conversation about Rosin grooves have interested me. By God it Did. I must not have a life.

It's not so much effort as it seems to get a flat surface on the rosin so that you don't rub a channel into it. All you have to do is season the whole surface. After that happens, you just pick up that cake and rosin the bow. Since it is circular, you grab it a little differently every time. It just stays nice and smooth without any additional effort. I believe I get twice the use out of it and there is far less risk of it breaking in half when it inevitably drops.

Three cheers for the flat surface rosiners. ;)

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #16 on: Feb 09, 2004, 10:51:57 PM »
OK, OK.
You've convinced me, I promise that I'll try and keep this one flat!

No more a "groovy chick" will I be. ;) :D

xan
« Last Edit: Feb 09, 2004, 10:53:09 PM by xania »

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #17 on: Feb 09, 2004, 11:01:41 PM »
I always manage to break the rosin bar, so I have crumbs that I use as long as I can hold them, then I start collecting the rosin from under the strings. YES, I know that area should be cleaned, but it's a lousy fiddle and besides I read in some book that in the old days fiddlers never removed that rosin, but recycled it.

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #18 on: Feb 11, 2004, 12:55:06 AM »
My piarasdtro is so shattered that a new small peice breaks off everythime that i put it on my bow. My other rosin, also round, has one groove on it. I don't care about how long it lasts, I paid a whole whopping $10 on it and it has lasted me forever, and I will inevitably end up dropping it before it runs out.

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #19 on: Feb 11, 2004, 04:24:37 AM »
I check the scratch marks on the cake and turn it to a different direction each time I use it so it stays flat across the top, but then again I am nuerotic  :)

I hold the rosin and draw the bow slowly. There's no reason for that, it's just habit.

What kind of pirastro are you trying Xan? I used olive for a while then changed to hill dark and seem to be stuck there.

Light rosins definetely shatter more spectacularly than the dark varieties.

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #20 on: Feb 11, 2004, 04:04:08 PM »
Item one. Flat top because I keep turning it.

Item two. Drawing bow across the rosin but slowly, a 3 to 4 count for each draw.

Same here, and I only draw the bow from tip to frog. From what I read last night about horsehair, there's absolutely no advantage in that either.

I loved the Hidersine light rosin I had when I was a kid, because there's a  dip in the middle and you can see a picture (of what I once took to be crossed swords, but I see they're bows) through it. As you work the rosin evenly, so the picture hole gets smaller and smaller, until one day it disappears.

Aah, little things please little minds.

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #21 on: Feb 11, 2004, 07:24:43 PM »


What kind of pirastro are you trying Xan? I used olive for a while then changed to hill dark and seem to be stuck there.



I got the Obligato rosin, because I am using Obligato strings. I also bought some Pirastro Cello rosin, which is gorgeous.

Both these rosins smell really nice-you can clearly smell the resin as you play. I'm not sure of the brand I was using before, other than it was wrapped in green cloth and tied with a cool little green button. But that rosin seemed a bit sticker, and I've never noticed the smell of it as you play.

xan

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #22 on: Feb 12, 2004, 12:38:36 PM »
That's interesting Xania, I only ever smell the rosin if I've just put some on, and I took it as I sign I had overdone it and was snuffing the powder. Also to me it's a rather musty, not entirely pleasant smell, that I'd like to avoid.

Of course smell is very subjective, so a smell I find unpleasant you may like, and your woman's sense of smell is much more acute than my poor male version.


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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #23 on: Feb 12, 2004, 04:03:05 PM »
^ I have never noticed any smell at all from rosin, but I must say, I'm glad about that, I'd probably begin sneezing from it and thats a bad thing.
but I never used that brand so maybe it smells nice?

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #24 on: Feb 12, 2004, 11:02:19 PM »
It smells of a pine forest,..... you know the smell of a fresh Christmas tree when you've just put it up?

Just like that. It's quite uplifting.

xan

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #25 on: Feb 13, 2004, 03:51:09 AM »
When I first started playing the fiddle i would make a grove in the rosin intentionally because I found it easier to to put the rosin on the bow that way and it is what my father did.  Later someone pointed out to me that that grove is one of the reasons I was losing so much hair from my bow.  Thats when I started trying to keep the rosin nice and flat on the top all the time.  Now I shiver when my father asks to borrow my rosin cause there is no way on earth I am gona get it back without a big grove carved in it.  Never noticed any smell though.

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #26 on: Feb 13, 2004, 08:46:45 PM »
The more I use the Pirastro rosin, the more I like it!  I usually rub the bow across the Rosin, but as Xania says, it may be better to rub the cake along the bow, instead.  
I like the way this rosin just turns itself into a fine powder. My other rosins did not do this like this brand does.
Thanks Xania

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Re:What does your rosin look like.....
« Reply #27 on: Feb 28, 2004, 10:02:29 PM »
I have a big trench in the middle of my rosin...despite a concerted effort not to go there...

 




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