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Re:chin and shoulder rests
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2004, 12:18:45 AM »
I use a chin rest but no shoulder rest.  Bought a shoulder rest once but never really used it.  

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Re:chin and shoulder rests
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2004, 12:19:44 AM »
I use a chin rest but no shoulder rest.

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Re:chin and shoulder rests
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2004, 05:56:56 PM »
I have just started "playing" at a violin and have discovered the same discomforts of the color bone and also cramping in the bow thumb. I am not sure if I have started developing arthritis in my left ring finger knuckle joint (started before I bought the violin). I liken the pain to a bad knife cut, or blistering burn, or at eh least a badly sprained ankle. Haven't been to the Doc yet to confirm any of this, but I have heard that exercising the joint helpd increase flexibility. So far exercising the finger has only spread the pain in the joint to adjoining fingers (hmmm... as compred to disjointed fingers? oh well)
Any thoughts?
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Re:chin and shoulder rests
« Reply #28 on: Jun 01, 2004, 04:20:36 PM »
Definitely see a doctor.  It shouldn't hurt to play the violin!  BTW, you don't say how much you're practicing; I have a friend who's a violin teacher working with a lot of adults, and she tells her adult beginners to limit their practice no more than 20 minutes a day, so that they don't overdo it and cause problems. -Steve W.

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Re:chin and shoulder rests
« Reply #29 on: Jun 02, 2004, 01:51:25 AM »
For how long?  I don't think that's enough to get anywhere in a reasonably amount of time...

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Re:chin and shoulder rests
« Reply #30 on: Jun 02, 2004, 04:25:24 AM »
For how long?  I don't think that's enough to get anywhere in a reasonably amount of time...

I think just for a couple weeks, but I'll ask her for details next time I see her.  The idea is to start gradually to give your body time to adjust so you don't do any damage, adults being a lot less resilient than kids and all! - Steve W.

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Re:chin and shoulder rests
« Reply #31 on: Jun 03, 2004, 03:09:51 PM »
Check out www.dov-music.com. I've been very happy with the Flesh style chinrest I got, along witht he other fittings that came with it. The price si unblievable, at $20 for chin rest, tail piece, end pin, and pegs. I like the wide slot on the chin rest so I can shift it to either side if I want to.

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Re:chin and shoulder rests
« Reply #32 on: Jul 24, 2004, 10:18:10 AM »

Using the shoulder rest seems to put the instrument into a position that lowers the treble side down lower than I like.  I have never been able to become comfortable with that so I stopped using them.


I tried several different shoulder rests, and several chinrests as well. I liked the Kun shoulder rest best (the non-folding plastic one), but like Pilgrum, the treble side was down farther than I wanted it to be. Kun makes extended length legs (the brass threaded screw is longer), and replacing the lower one (on the thin end/treble side) that came on the rest with this extended one solved the problem of the angle. I have the long one positioned out to where the threaded brass is screwed in about half way, and the upper short leg is threaded all the way in, which brought the fiddle to a more level position. That half of the problem solved, I started trying out different style chinrests, and settled on the Strad style, which I bought from Dov Schmidt -
www.dov-music.com. It couldn't be more comfortable and versatile for me, but that's me - it's different for everyone, so the best thing to do is experiment.
Harry
P.S. - now to figure out how to sell the chin/shoulder rests that didn't work out for me!...oh well, I guess I'll list them on ebay one of these days.
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Re:chin and shoulder rests
« Reply #33 on: Jul 24, 2004, 11:05:19 AM »
(..)

But my vibrato isn't coming along at all!  It's pretty much restricted to my third finger.

Not sure what to do.
Just keep developing a non-vibrato playing style. I've been playing for six years without one single vibrato and I'm doing fine

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Re:chin and shoulder rests
« Reply #34 on: Jul 24, 2004, 06:13:27 PM »
Yes, of course you can play without...but I'm working on my classical music rep....and you kinda need to have it...LOL...:)

Even with the little bit of fiddling I do...I find it makes sustained notes sound so very nice...

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Re:chin and shoulder rests
« Reply #35 on: Jul 26, 2004, 05:48:03 AM »
Chin and shoulder rest posts are always interesting for me to read because I like to hear what solutions others have found. Even though they're interesting, when I was trying to find my own solution the stuff I read couldn't help me beyond giving me some brand names to try.

The problem is that we're all built a little different so what's good for me won't necessarily be good for you. I wrote down the brand names that I heard most and then tried the most popular of them. Some violin shops have a selection or rests on hand to try. There's no place like that close to my home so I had to deal with internet companies.

Some of the internet companies will let you order three or more chin & shoulder rests to try at home and then return the ones you don't want. That way the only money you waste is the return shipping; usually it's less than ten dollars to return three of each in one package.



I settled on one of the cheapest chin rests, a Dresden low model. I chose it because it fit me the best, being inexpensive was just a bonus. The Wittner hypo allergic chin rest was a close second for my fit.

For a shoulder rest the Mach One fit me better than anything else I tried. It is adjustable for height and and also for the angle of your violin. The bonus with the Mach One is that it never falls off. The Mach One is not so cheap though. The maple one is about fifty dollars. There is a plastic Mach One for about half that price and they claim the only difference is it's plastic instesd of maple. I can't verify that though; I was so happy to finally find a shouder rest that worked for me that I just kept the wooden one that I tried.

 




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