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Is it worth it?
« on: Sep 18, 2007, 02:34:46 PM »
I'm in the market now for a new shoulder res for my fiddle. I have a Resonans low profile rest that I used for my 3/4. It wasn't spectacular, but it got the job done. I'm thinking about trying a Kun Origional rest, but is it worth the extra money? My local music store doen't have much for shoulder rests right now for me to try out, so I'm asking you guys for your opinions on these products. Thanks.

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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #1 on: Sep 18, 2007, 02:45:04 PM »
Find a shop with a good selection and try them all.   Alternatively, ask other players if they mind you trying theirs - few will refuse.   You'll hear here only what suits other players.................

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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #2 on: Sep 18, 2007, 03:03:31 PM »
I agree with Rod but, FWIW IMHO

Kun Original fine but, are they worth the extra above your basic plastic?

Kun Bravo very nice but, a little heavy.

Mach 1 one of the best, light and comfortable but, the covering tends to become a little slippy on the shoulder after a few months.

Kun Voce Good and light and comfortable but, not cheap.
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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #3 on: Sep 18, 2007, 03:12:27 PM »
Muco and Artino show up around here with a clone of the Kun, but less $$, and they work just fine.
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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #4 on: Sep 18, 2007, 03:22:01 PM »
Yup, KUN is nice. One thing that I neglected to think about when I got one ... I had trouble getting the original to fit in my fiddle case since the legs didn't collaspe.  I ended up buying an Otto. It's just as comfortable and it fits in the limited storage space I have.

Like was said above, try several out to see what feels right for you. Comfort is the key, not brand name. And make sure it stores easily in your case.

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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #5 on: Sep 18, 2007, 05:05:01 PM »
As nice as the Barvo and Vivo are, that's a bit out of my budget. I forgot that the Original doesn't fold up. Certainly something to consider. I'm now trying to decide between the Kun Original and the Kun Collapsible.

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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #6 on: Sep 18, 2007, 05:16:08 PM »
There's always the bit of toweling or whatever over the shoulder thing....easy to store too........did'nt one of the posters above used to use his sock?! ???

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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #7 on: Sep 18, 2007, 06:11:36 PM »
I had almost forgotten about that.

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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #8 on: Sep 18, 2007, 07:08:14 PM »
I'm in the market now for a new shoulder res for my fiddle. I have a Resonans low profile rest that I used for my 3/4. It wasn't spectacular, but it got the job done. I'm thinking about trying a Kun Origional rest, but is it worth the extra money? My local music store doen't have much for shoulder rests right now for me to try out, so I'm asking you guys for your opinions on these products. Thanks.

Kun rests (and similar) are much more adjustable than Resonans, which could be worth it if you think you might want the extra flexibility to adjust height/position etc.  I used to use a Resonans but I think that Kuns are built better and will likely last longer, plus most parts are replaceable.  I've used Kun Originals for years and like them a lot; they're very adjustable height- and width-wise which I've found useful as I've changed my playing position somewhat over the last few years. 

However on my main fiddle I've been using a Kun Voce for the last year or so because the feet on the standard Kuns didn't fit it well and they're prone to collapsing (during performance!!) on that fiddle--this is not as big a problem with my other violins for some reason.  The feet on the Voce seem to be designed to prevent this and fit better than any other rest I've tried on that violin.  [I see that Kun has now changed the feet on all their other rests over to hard rubber which might help eliminate this issue.]

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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #9 on: Sep 19, 2007, 03:44:03 AM »
There was a wildman at Winfield. Decked out in tie dyed shirt, he had long flowing hair and a big bushy mustache. He played the fiddle with great flair and drama, dancing around the fire like a cocaine fueled sprite. He played pretty well, and, added a lot to our tunes, but he was such an athletic player, that his shoulder rest kept falling off the fiddle. Over and over again,It would land in the dirt near the fire like some little bit of fiddle excrement, and he would stop everything and pick it up and try to put it on better. Finally he broke a string and wandered off away from our camp, promising to return. We never saw him again.

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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #10 on: Sep 19, 2007, 12:00:07 PM »
Now that would not have happened with socks and braces! ;D

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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #11 on: Sep 19, 2007, 01:40:47 PM »
 :D  :D  :D

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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #12 on: Sep 20, 2007, 01:01:20 AM »
I just ordered the only shoulder rest I've found that I like.

http://www.sharmusic.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=260644&tab=about

Saw a few people with these at BHSFS, and asked about them.  Was told they were Yehudi Mehunin shoulder rests, and that they were no longer made. 

So of course, I came home and went online looking...  Apparently the originals are no longer made but here's a copy. 
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...version of the classic Menuhin-style design...

I really like this - not aggravating, unlike most rests.  It does its job, holds the fiddle in place quite securely, but really I don't feel it pressing against my shoulder.  It holds the instrument quite steady, and yet does not at all prevent me moving it easily about when I want to. 

Also, the spring-design attaches more securely than any other rest I've seen. 


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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #13 on: Sep 20, 2007, 03:27:59 AM »
Jen, you got yours yet? What color is it? Is there much choice in where it sits on the fiddle, or how high it is? Those spraddled feet look like they wouldn't fall off if you hit your fiddle right on the bridge with a splitting maul. Don't need to try that for my sake... but count on my pestering you to let me check it out next time we meet, if all is willing and the creek don't rise.

The price is right there in line with my idea of Good Stuff Cheap as well. This town hasn't been the same since Spag's sold out to Building 19.
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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #14 on: Sep 20, 2007, 11:26:08 PM »
Yeah.  I actually got it the day before yesterday, the day before I posted about it. 

It holds on great.   Only four points of contact, but it's more secure than any other rest I've tried.  Also, once on, less obtrusive than any other, as well. 

I don't know if you could maybe adjust the height by playing with the spring - but really I don't think you'd need to.  The spring itself provides just a bit of give.  I think it's a large part of the thing's unobtrusiveness. 

As far as positioning -- well.  Hmm.  It seems to just naturally end up in the most ideal spot.  But you can, if you want, kind of angle it this way or that across the fiddle's hips - not sure how much choice that would count for.  Maybe a lot, maybe none at all? 

Anyway -- I still really like the thing.  But, I took it off. 

Trying to learn to play new music quickly ha-ha -- with these new octave strings I put on -- using a rest (when I'm used to none) is just a tad bit too distracting.

However.  Since the BHSFS, my fourth finger has finally decided to participate willingly in the fingerboard fun.  Bringing me much closer to my goal of being able to move around on the fingerboard, instead of hanging out in first all the time.  I'm planning to actually start working at shifting, and plan to use this rest while working on that.

I Like this rest a lot.  I think if I'd've had this one to start, I'd've never given up using a rest in the first place.  However, even though its presence is hardly noticeable, yet still it does it's job of supporting the fiddle, and even that amount of support is now distracting to me.  ::) So, for now, I will be using it only in small doses.
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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #15 on: Sep 21, 2007, 11:39:35 PM »
I guess if it sits in the right place to begin with, not much need to adjust. The grip system looks a lot like the bulkier heavier pricier Comford. I'm thinking of tacking one on to the next string order just to try out. How well does it fit in your case?

Willing participation of the little one is a joy isn't it? That just started to happen to me late last spring or so. Before that it took everything as a chore.
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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #16 on: Sep 24, 2007, 02:02:58 AM »
Hah - nothing fits well in my cases.  They are both very cozy!  One has an outside pocket, and of course it fits just fine there.  But instead I'm keeping it in my music bag.  :)
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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #17 on: Sep 25, 2007, 07:32:30 PM »
That looks just like my first shoulder rest...mine was some cheap copy of a Menuhin one - "Lark", I think. It broke pretty quickly - I think the feet kept falling off and scratching the violin. I didn't bother getting another (I got a Wolf instead, which is still going strong after about 10 years!)

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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #18 on: Sep 27, 2007, 03:09:47 AM »
Just bought the Kun Original. Thanks guys! :)

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Re: Is it worth it?
« Reply #19 on: Oct 03, 2007, 12:43:05 AM »
I have the muco - love it.  Like it better than the Kun.

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« Reply #20 on: Oct 03, 2007, 01:05:58 AM »
I just got it yesterday, and I was really impressed on how fast it came. I sent them an email saying how please I was with my expereince with them, and they emailed me back offering me $25 credit! ;D Goes to show that showing your appreication can really pay off.

 




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