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Looking for Oh Johnny
« on: Aug 05, 2006, 05:39:23 AM »
Does anyone know where I can find the notes for "Oh, Johnny, Oh?"

I've gone to thesession.org, jc's tunefinder, and did a search here, but I can't find the notes for this tune.  I found words, but no notes. 

Mmm... actually that's not quite true, I did find some notes when I google-searched, which I even printed out.  But, at the top the page says "1st Sax (Eb Alto)."  (It's written with 3 sharps & lots of accidentals.  Is the sax a transposing instrument, or is this the key it's supposed to be in?)  Also there's an extra clef and a whole bunch of extra notes (I didn't know Sax could play chords?), which will make this difficult to sight-read at the contra dance. 

The contra dance is the reason I'm looking for this tune.  About every other month or so they decide to play this tune.  (There's a dance for it.)  Everyone seems to already know it, and no one has the music.

So, could anyone help me?  Do you know of a sight that has the notes for this tune? 

Thanks!
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Re: Looking for Oh Johnny
« Reply #1 on: Aug 05, 2006, 01:17:43 PM »
The sax is indeed a transposing instrument.

Since you now have the dots, albeit in a different key, you could just transpose the tune and write out the melody in the key you will be playing in for the dance.

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Re: Looking for Oh Johnny
« Reply #2 on: Aug 05, 2006, 01:53:06 PM »
How far is it supposed to transpose?

I'll have to go with that approach if no one else has the tune.  But I tried this one on my piano last night and there are way too many notes -- that is, an especially complex arrangment.  The "Oh Johnny" part - the only recognizable portion - seems to start over from a different root each time, and I don't think that's how they play it at the dance.  Actually having trouble finding the melody from this.  Perhaps it's a harmony part. 
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Re: Looking for Oh Johnny
« Reply #3 on: Aug 05, 2006, 02:07:55 PM »
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1st Sax (Eb Alto)

As you already probably worked out, the alto sax is an Eb instrument, and if my memory serves me right the Soprano and the tenor sax are both Bb instruments.

Maybe an easier way would be to get together with one of the other musicians and ask them to teach you the tune. Maybe make a quick recording for you to refer back to if it's a difficult tune.

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Re: Looking for Oh Johnny
« Reply #4 on: Aug 05, 2006, 02:11:36 PM »
How far is it supposed to transpose?


A major 6th. So a note written as middle C for the Eb sax will sound as the Eb below middle C.

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Re: Looking for Oh Johnny
« Reply #5 on: Aug 05, 2006, 09:51:31 PM »
I did a google search and found nothing online.  I did find that there are two different versions, though.  One in 1917 and one in 195? by the Andrews Sisters.  There are fakebooks and collections with the tune, so you could go that route if you wanted. 

I'm with martyn on this.  Probably would be best to learn by ear.  Especially since it doesn't look like the tune is necessarily a fiddle tune, and the version you know of is most likely different from any sheet music you could acquire.

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Re: Looking for Oh Johnny
« Reply #6 on: Aug 06, 2006, 08:36:07 PM »
Do you have it in ABC? If so, you can transpose easily with ABC Tools.

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Re: Looking for Oh Johnny
« Reply #7 on: Aug 07, 2006, 02:33:16 AM »
Do you have it in ABC? If so, you can transpose easily with ABC Tools.
No I don't.  But that may come in handy some other time, thanks!
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Re: Looking for Oh Johnny
« Reply #8 on: Aug 07, 2006, 02:40:38 AM »
I actually think (hope) I've figured out this piece of music...  that is, I think I found the melody line and made sense of the accidentals.  It has repeats as if it's played ABAB tune - but - I think the B part is actually the sax part (though I didn't think a sax could play double-stops??) and the A part is the piano part, which includes the melody line.  The sax part, that would need to be transposed, actually seems to be harmony or variations, so I think I can just ignore it.  (Or, if I'm wrong, maybe eventually someone will teach me the B part...)
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