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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2006, 09:06:59 PM »
OK, just now I decided to learn what octive tuning would sound like.
No, no , go the OTHER way, dummy! ;)
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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2006, 09:09:23 PM »
Now comes the problem: when you've got a $39 instrument, how much are you willing to pay to have it set up properly?   :D
"Hmmmm... a set of nut files costs TWICE what that thing did. You know what that means! I have to get one of each color!"

Does your mandolin match your shoes/boots today?
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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2006, 09:18:34 PM »
You DID take my advice from my earlier message, RIGHT??
Absolutely, first thing I did.  In a hurry so I got some light guage D'Addario's from Dusty Strings -(all acoustic musicians should visit Dusty Strings if they pass through Seattle, especially guitarists-- it's Heaven.  But they sold off their violin stuff.)  SECOND spares (Martin 400's) arriving Friday-- iow, I had already ordered them.

Thing is, I already swapped out the guitar strings the previous owner put on for the E because they were shredding my fingers.  Very heavy guage.

With that in mind, looking at the slots in the nut, I think maybe just using a lighter guage may drop the action a sufficient amount-- the G's are riding kinda high in their slots.

THIS time, if I decide to experiment w/octave tuning, I'll do it BEFORE taking the string (hell, WIRE) up to pitch.

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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2006, 09:32:54 PM »
No, no , go the OTHER way, dummy! ;)

Yeah yeah very funny zippit!

Tuned down, then back up.  Now I know why mandolins have that tailpiece cover.  Thank god they don't cost like fiddle strings.

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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2006, 09:55:10 PM »
You could get by with three nut files from Stew-Mac.  That would cost about $40, but you'd have them for future needs. They work on fiddles, too.

I have a couple of instruments (guitar and mando) that could use some adjustments at the nut, and I'm not eager to spend the money for a set of nut files.  I just figured out that I could make some broaches that would do the job.  I need to find some scrap metal of the right thickness, round off the edges, and file about an inch's worth of teeth into the edge.  Probably not good enough for making a nut, but OK for deepening an existing slot by a little bit.

The only part that is the least bit difficult is finding the metal.

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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2006, 10:00:37 PM »
Now you all have me thinking about a starter mando again, just for kicks...

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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2006, 10:17:37 PM »
"Hmmmm... a set of nut files costs TWICE what that thing did. You know what that means! I have to get one of each color!"

Does your mandolin match your shoes/boots today?

You get that black mandolin to play when you're in your "Johnny Cash mood".   Ooooo baby.

Really, I'm never gonna be all that good:  I want cool looking instruments at least.   :-\


Now, who is it that makes that bow with the LEDs inside?.............

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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2006, 10:32:46 PM »
I need to find some scrap metal of the right thickness, round off the edges, and file about an inch's worth of teeth into the edge.  Probably not good enough for making a nut, but OK for deepening an existing slot by a little bit.
You can stack the #13 saw blades in an X-acto #11 handle if you split the collet (blade holder) with a cold chisel and grind/file it to accomodate more blades. That works in a pinch.

A razor saw is about the right width for an electric guitar's high E string, its what I use to make the "starter slot" for the nut files to run in.
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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2006, 10:34:41 PM »
You get that black mandolin to play when you're in your "Johnny Cash mood".   Ooooo baby.
Right, right... sing "Folsom Prison" in that "high and lonesome" Monroe Bros falsetto! :)
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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2006, 11:31:52 PM »
You can stack the #13 saw blades in an X-acto #11 handle if you split the collet (blade holder) with a cold chisel and grind/file it to accomodate more blades. 


I want a round bottomed notch.  I've got a lot of old saw blades - bandsaw, jigsaw, recip saw, old hand saws, etc.  I can certainly make something satisfactory out of them,  if I recontour the teeth. I'll give that a try tomorrow.

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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2006, 09:53:15 PM »
Whoa...the Rogue is up to $49.99.  I should have bought two.

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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2006, 10:12:59 PM »
Whoa...the Rogue is up to $49.99.
So now you only have to buy 2 to get free shipping? ;)

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I did (@$39USD, one 'burst, one black), and they got backordered... they claim that more are in the pipe for a 5/17 delivery. Google still finds the dealnews.com link for the $29 Rogue mando from MF. :)

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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2006, 01:36:37 AM »
So I got one like in (not the octave though just reg) madmat's link (same shop), Now what kind of spare strings should I be ordering???

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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2006, 04:51:45 AM »
So I got one like in (not the octave though just reg) madmat's link (same shop), Now what kind of spare strings should I be ordering???
If you have a Sam Ash near you, they will have Fender, d'Addario and Ernie Ball... ALL are better than the cheese-cutters the stock Chinese mandos ship with! Thomastik mades mando strings (and also octave mando strings!) but they are expensive. Octave mando arrives next week, it's going to be cool to be able to play banjo/tenor guitar chords on a flat-backed, doublecourse lute-like instrument.
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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2006, 06:43:13 AM »
If you have a Sam Ash near you,
I suppose Guitar Center will do...

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Re: Rogue $29 mando
« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2006, 06:47:56 AM »
D'Addario J74's are a medium gauge string and sound good for about $6 a set.  A refreshing contrast to fiddle strings.

 




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