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G tuning fork
« on: Mar 08, 2006, 02:34:08 PM »
I thought I would get a tuning fork to tune to while I am away from home. Most of those I have seen are 'A'. I would prefer a 'G'. Anyone know a source? 

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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #1 on: Mar 08, 2006, 03:13:54 PM »
Just out of curiosity, why a G fork? And why not get a regular tuner? Then you can tune any string you want.

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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #2 on: Mar 08, 2006, 03:29:28 PM »
You may already know this but it is possible for a tuning fork to go out of tune. I would opt for the tuner myself. Before I owned a tuner, I carried a harmonica to tune with. Generally as accurate as a tuning fork, less fragile and you can always use it to play if your fingers get sore.

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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #3 on: Mar 08, 2006, 03:41:16 PM »
"Generally as accurate as a tuning fork, less fragile and you can always use it to play if your fingers get sore."

Whoa. The only part of that I can agree with is the playing part. A pit of corrosion or a bit of fuzz in the reed, a bend of the breath, and the harp is out of tune. Every time I've offered an A fork to a tuner, it has been rock-steady 440. Kept in the same conditions as you'd keep a fiddle, whacked with nothing harder than a chunk of wood, how is the fork going to go out of tune?
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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #4 on: Mar 08, 2006, 03:57:28 PM »
That said, a free reed such as a harp or pitch pipe will get you pretty close to the note you want. Then you can let your ears monitor the final touch-up.

I was fond of my circular harmonica in my a capella days:

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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #5 on: Mar 08, 2006, 04:10:47 PM »
Hitting a tuning fork with something more substantial than a chunk of wood. That being said, I have nothing against the use of a tuning fork, nor do I wish to denegrate tuning fork users, or those who may be contemplating the use of a tuning fork, whether it be an "A" 440 fork, a "G" fork, or a salad fork. I have personally used a flourescent light to tune my guitar. A harmonica is a good alternative, though. The chances of all the notes on a harmonica going out of tune are small. Just presenting alternatives. I suspect you could use a beehive to tune with, but you might need to know the species, temperature and barometric pressure, but I digress.
     I have never seen a "G" fork but ask at your local music store or google it. Should answer your question. Then we can use this thread to have a good rousing discussion on the merits of using harmonicas, forks and other odd implements to tune with.

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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #6 on: Mar 08, 2006, 04:34:47 PM »
Here is a source of tuning forks for "therapeutic" purposes.

If you were to use a beehive to tune, you would need to know that the queen was present and healthy. As you may know, a queenless hive gets an uncertain frequency to the hum within ten or fifteen minutes of the loss. Really.   ;D
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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #7 on: Mar 08, 2006, 04:39:21 PM »
I suspect you could use a beehive to tune with, but you might need to know the species, temperature and barometric pressure, but I digress.
 
I'd check the Temperament of the bees too..............they might hum off key :D

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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #8 on: Mar 08, 2006, 04:50:25 PM »
I'd check the Temperament of the bees too..............they might hum off key :D

Would that be the key of bee flat?

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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #9 on: Mar 08, 2006, 04:57:34 PM »
You certainly don't want bee sharp.
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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #10 on: Mar 08, 2006, 05:11:29 PM »
Just for the record, harmonicas are not very accurate and they always sound a bit off to me.    Just as Bee said,  breath and reed allow to much variance.  I'd much rather use a $15 dollar Korg  or Quicktune digital tuner, very compact, quick, and accurate.  The "close enough" method  makes my ears spring up and I get a nervous twitch in my eye.

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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #11 on: Mar 08, 2006, 05:21:27 PM »
I always insist on all the instruments being in tune with each other. Before the days of cheap, reliable tuners, that wasn't always concert pitch. Nowadays, everyone seems to be at standard pitch. Of course, I think most horn players still use a beehive to tune with, judging by some of the sounds at practise.

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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #12 on: Mar 08, 2006, 05:25:16 PM »
And if you're a trad player don't even think about using a tuner or tuning fork. As soon as you're tuned to standard a piper or accordionist'll come in and you'll have to retune all over again.

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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #13 on: Mar 08, 2006, 05:48:07 PM »
And if you're a trad player don't even think about using a tuner or tuning fork. As soon as you're tuned to standard a piper or accordionist'll come in and you'll have to retune all over again.

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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #14 on: Mar 08, 2006, 05:52:48 PM »
If you have a loud piper or accordianist it is all a moot point anyway.

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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #15 on: Mar 08, 2006, 07:31:55 PM »
Not at all. Just spurs us on to play louder and better ;) Pipes and box are two of my favourite instruments to play with anyways... they're just not the most reliable for tuning!

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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #16 on: Mar 08, 2006, 08:03:24 PM »
So, Rudi, what's it going to take to get those pegs working properly? Still tuning a whole tone down?


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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #17 on: Mar 09, 2006, 08:34:35 AM »
So, Rudi, what's it going to take to get those pegs working properly? Still tuning a whole tone down?


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On the e-violin yes. The acoustic is fine in concert tuning. As I may have mentioned elsewhere; in the past, I could always 'hear' an E , so never needed a tuner. That ability is now gone. No G t-fork shows on ebay, so I will get a digi-tuner probably. 

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Just out of curiosity, why a G fork?

Habit of tuning the lowest string first. Play a 5th up for the next string etc.
« Last Edit: Mar 09, 2006, 08:41:10 AM by rudi »

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Re: G tuning fork
« Reply #18 on: Mar 09, 2006, 04:41:08 PM »
Huh.  I always tune my low string a bit sharp.  Couldn't do that.

 




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